Zdravo,imam problem na autu odnedavno kad su bili hladni
dani,prilikom davanja kontakta ostanu duze upaljenje lampice over speed limit,check engine i lampica za grejac ,sve ostale lampice se pogase a one ostanu jos nekih 15 20 sekundi upaljene zatim se ugase i onda mogu da startujem motor.Zanima me da li je to normalno za hladne dane,i na sta da obratim paznju,mislio sam da je do akumulatora on nije stavio sam drugi isto se desava osigurace sam proveravao svi su ok relej se cuje da cvakne kada se pogase ove lampice,
Auto je Ford C max 2006 1,6tdci 80kw 109ks.
Posle paljenja ne izbacuje nikakve greske na tabli sve se ponasa normalno,sumnjam na grejace ali nisam siguran...
Svaka pomoc dobrodosla,hvala i pozdrav
Hladan Start
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- Član foruma od: sreda, 27. nov. 2024. u 23:02h
Re: Hladan Start
Normalna operacija automobila. Grejač aktivira kada je spoljna temperatura ispod 4°C I tada svetli žuto. To što se čuje je relej grejača.
Takođe je to što radite ispravan način paljenja, dati kontakt i sačekati da grejač odradi svoje i onda pokrenuti paljenje.
Takođe je to što radite ispravan način paljenja, dati kontakt i sačekati da grejač odradi svoje i onda pokrenuti paljenje.
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- Član foruma od: ponedeljak, 6. jun 2011. u 23:09h
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Re: Hladan Start
Osim sto je 15-20 sekundi debelo previse za iole moderan dizel, ako nije -20. I tada maksimalno vreme je nekih 8 sekundi. I to maksimalno vreme koliko grejaci rade prvu fazu, ne kada se ugasila lampica.
Ne pricamo o dizelu od pre 40 godina.
Grejaci se ne aktiviraju u zavisnosti od spoljasnje temperature, vec u zavisnosti od temperature motora.
I aktiviraju se sve dok temperatura motora nije preko 80 stepeni, samo sto tada rade jako kratko.
To sto nema lampice.. ne znaci da se grejaci nisu aktivirali. Lampica ne pokazuje da li grejaci rade ili ne vec da li mozes da pokrenes motor.
Grejaci rade i nakon sto se lampica ugasila, pa i nakon sto je motor pokrenut. Koliko dugo.. zavisi od par faktora. Temperature motora, broja obrtaja...
Ovo je jos od starog 2.0 TDDI/TDCI. Noviji mogu samo brze da rade.
The glow plugs are located in the side of the cylinder head and aid engine starting and efficiency. The glow plugs and the glow plug indicator lamp are controlled by the powertrain control module (PCM).
The glow plugs preheat the combustion chambers, which aids cold starting. During the preheat stage, the PCM receives an engine temperature signal from the cylinder head temperature (CHT) sensor and this determines the preheat time. The lower the temperature, the longer the preheat time. There is a maximum preheat time of 8 seconds at -20ºC or lower. At temperatures above 80ºC there is no preheat phase.
Once the engine has started, the glow plugs enter an after-glow phase. The after-glow phase helps to improve idling and reduce hydrocarbon emissions through more efficient combustion just after starting. The after-glow phase only operates at engine speeds below 2500 RPM, above that, the after-glow phase is interrupted to increase the durability of the glow plugs. There is a maximum after-glow time of 30 seconds at -20ºC or lower. At temperatures above 50ºC there is no after-glow phase.
Ne pricamo o dizelu od pre 40 godina.
Grejaci se ne aktiviraju u zavisnosti od spoljasnje temperature, vec u zavisnosti od temperature motora.
I aktiviraju se sve dok temperatura motora nije preko 80 stepeni, samo sto tada rade jako kratko.
To sto nema lampice.. ne znaci da se grejaci nisu aktivirali. Lampica ne pokazuje da li grejaci rade ili ne vec da li mozes da pokrenes motor.
Grejaci rade i nakon sto se lampica ugasila, pa i nakon sto je motor pokrenut. Koliko dugo.. zavisi od par faktora. Temperature motora, broja obrtaja...
Ovo je jos od starog 2.0 TDDI/TDCI. Noviji mogu samo brze da rade.
The glow plugs are located in the side of the cylinder head and aid engine starting and efficiency. The glow plugs and the glow plug indicator lamp are controlled by the powertrain control module (PCM).
The glow plugs preheat the combustion chambers, which aids cold starting. During the preheat stage, the PCM receives an engine temperature signal from the cylinder head temperature (CHT) sensor and this determines the preheat time. The lower the temperature, the longer the preheat time. There is a maximum preheat time of 8 seconds at -20ºC or lower. At temperatures above 80ºC there is no preheat phase.
Once the engine has started, the glow plugs enter an after-glow phase. The after-glow phase helps to improve idling and reduce hydrocarbon emissions through more efficient combustion just after starting. The after-glow phase only operates at engine speeds below 2500 RPM, above that, the after-glow phase is interrupted to increase the durability of the glow plugs. There is a maximum after-glow time of 30 seconds at -20ºC or lower. At temperatures above 50ºC there is no after-glow phase.
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